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    Riding Impressions

    I had my local dealers demo out for a whole morning. I had been a bit concerned about the seat height, but the bike is very narrow so getting my feet down was no problem. You don't realise how small the bike is until you sit on it. It churns over a good few times on the starter before it fires up. It sounds surprisingly loud with the standard exhaust, a deeper note than other V fours I have heard. I took the long way out of town to get a good idea of how it behaved in traffic stop and go conditions. No problem, though finding neutral at a standstill could be tricky. Once out on the open road I started to wind it up a bit. I had to leave the engine map set on the middle "sport" setting as I did not know then how to change it. Pity, as it would have been nice to try the track setting. In sport mode the ignition timing is slightly retarded in the first three gears. It still felt plenty quick though. There is a slight harshness between three and four thousand RPM as you accelerate, but it is not really unpleasant. Call it character. The handling is superb. You are more over the front than on the RSV1000R with a shorter reach to the bars. I made a point of caning it up a hill which has a badly rippled surface . The Suzuki GSXR1000 I used to have got seriously out of shape here and my RSV1000R with no steering damper went into a full blown tankslapper. The RSV4 twitched a couple of times then just carried on. I had read the reports saying it did not have the low end grunt expected from a V4, but I have no complaints. Top gear overtakes at 50/60 MPH are no problem. Up the top end of the rev range it really howls and pulls like crazy. It gets through a tank of fuel pretty quick if you are going for it though. The brakes don't have the initial fierceness of those on the RSV1000R, so they give better feel. More than enough stopping power when you squeeze a little harder. There a lots of quality touches as you look around the bike, but one thing that I was a bit concerned about was that the area of exhaust pipe visible in front of the rear wheel had what looked like rust blotches on it. Surely this is stainless steel, so that would reqire further investigation.
    All in all, I really enjoyed my time on the bike. I found it more comfortable than the 1000R and easy to ride. Fifteen grand is a lot of dosh, so I would probably go for the standard version when it comes out. I would need a ride on the new R1 before making a final decision though.

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    Good review Dave, sounds a great bike !

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    its a shame but i dont like the style of the RSV4

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    I need to find one to blag a ride on, not to sure about losing the V twin power characteristics though

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    it was stuck in "sport" mode? What does that mean exactly? Sad thing is we Americans probably won't see any of these until next season. O' well..I'm pretty sure I'll never switch from a twin on the street to anything 4 cylinder ever!!! especially after installing my hooked airbox and truly feeling a well tuned twin. short stroke high reving fours are boring in everyday commutes and you will sound like a dick trying to make any power on the street so why bother??

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    Like some other current sports bikes, the RSV4 has switchable engine mapping. The rider has the choice of three settings. If i remember rightly, they are road, sport and track. In road, the power is restricted to 140BHP, in sport the ignition timing is retarded in the first three gears and in track mode you get full power in all the gears. Being a V4, the RSV4 does not feel as bland as an inline four and it sounds much nicer, but if you prefer twins, that's fine. It is always good to try out other bikes though.
    A couple of things I did not mention above - The mirrors are rubbish, even worse than those on the 1000R. The clutch is cable actuated, so no bleeding required, having said that, I have not had a problem with the clutch on my twin. The rear brake actuallly works and finally, the bike is held far more securely on the sidestand than the twin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duodave View Post
    Like some other current sports bikes, the RSV4 has switchable engine mapping. The rider has the choice of three settings. If i remember rightly, they are road, sport and track. In road, the power is restricted to 140BHP, in sport the ignition timing is retarded in the first three gears and in track mode you get full power in all the gears. Being a V4, the RSV4 does not feel as bland as an inline four and it sounds much nicer, but if you prefer twins, that's fine. It is always good to try out other bikes though.
    A couple of things I did not mention above - The mirrors are rubbish, even worse than those on the 1000R. The clutch is cable actuated, so no bleeding required, having said that, I have not had a problem with the clutch on my twin. The rear brake actuallly works and finally, the bike is held far more securely on the sidestand than the twin.
    wow a cable clutch? I haven't seen a cable clutch on an italian bike probably ever...I wonder what Aprilia's reasoning for that was. I also think varying power modes are pointless. If the buyer had a problem with the full power of the bike you would think they should probably go elsewhere. Suzuki and Honda and maybe Yamaha do this also and to me its rubbish. Maybe for rain conditions, but that's about it.

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    honda have full power all the time on the blade no switch to mute the power

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    I'm with Mr Chow, i would have though your right wrist is the only power mapper people need, if they haven't got the co-ordination then maybe a 1000cc V4 isn't the right bike for these folks

    Good review Dave, but i'm wondering why you chose to deliberately ride on a tankslapper inducing strip of tarmac on a unfamiliar loaned bike? Good on ya for being adventurous though

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    Cable clutch systems are much much lighter and simpler in design


    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Chow View Post
    wow a cable clutch? I haven't seen a cable clutch on an italian bike probably ever...I wonder what Aprilia's reasoning for that was. I also think varying power modes are pointless. If the buyer had a problem with the full power of the bike you would think they should probably go elsewhere. Suzuki and Honda and maybe Yamaha do this also and to me its rubbish. Maybe for rain conditions, but that's about it.

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    I think that the sad truth is, individualism was not selling their bikes. That is why aprilia are dropping into line with the japanese sports bikes. Generic styling, smaller dimensions, power modes. It will get to a stage soon, where, if you were to remove all decals and brandings from all current sport bikes, you would struggle to identify a bike. Even the germans are conforming with their new sportsbike(the name escapes me).

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    Great review, good to hear a non biased point of view. I understand peoples frustrations with the different mappings, I live in London and ride it around with the track setting on, no problem.... people should really learn to get used to the throttle....any how the bike is absolutely amazing, it handles and delivers power exactly how you want it to and when you get it on a track it is just sublime!

    you have to try one

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsvr05marc View Post
    I think that the sad truth is, individualism was not selling their bikes. That is why aprilia are dropping into line with the japanese sports bikes. Generic styling, smaller dimensions, power modes. It will get to a stage soon, where, if you were to remove all decals and brandings from all current sport bikes, you would struggle to identify a bike. Even the germans are conforming with their new sportsbike(the name escapes me).
    This guy is spot on..and I believe you're speaking of this monstrosity

    Which oddly enough looks a whole hell of a lot like what the 08' zx10r was rumored to look like back before anyone had seen a pic of the real thing.

    And then ultimately it ended up looking like this

    Which in my opinion looks exactly like the bmw.
    need i say more?
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    no one has a comment about this? damn i spent like 10 min. putting that post together :P

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    I have a comment. That BMW is hideous

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    Quote Originally Posted by -james- View Post
    I have a comment. That BMW is hideous
    YES!! there you go. Just finished reading an article in 'motorcyclist' talking about the bmw 1000rr. They said basically a twin was out of the question (no idea why) a triple was too heavy because of the balance shaft required (still don't get it, the daytona 675 is one of the lightest bikes in its class), a V4 was too complex (haha) so they went with the inline four because it was the "complete package" aka

    They have never done a complete superbike in the past they said....WRONG!!! THE HP2 was a full blown sport bike and that was a boxer twin AIR COOLED MAKING 130bhp!! as much as our apes fellas! and that's air cooled! Oh and it was shaft drive
    So they decided to "do what everyone else was doing" and make a bike that's so cookie cutter and boring that it really kinda makes me want to hurl and cry at the same time.
    Aprilia with the rsv4 is more or less going the same route and that sucks too. oh well what can you do?

    Oh btw Motorcyclist claims the 1000rr is 422lbs dry! that's no lighter than anything else out there, so don't tell me a triple was out of the question because of weight. Yes, it is going to make 193bhp, but who cares? you still look like a douche.
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    hate to say it but i bet the bmw will be the best bike out there with far superior backup aswell!
    guy tested one on the track in standard form went past a new shape race preped r1 on the straight! seen it in the flesh looks like a gsxr with odd lights.
    don't be fooled guys this is going to be a weapon! may not be the best looking .

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    The Beemer looks better in the red, white and blue race colour's, well better than the one in the pic's here !. The front light's really are wank though....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RStuVR View Post
    The Beemer looks better in the red, white and blue race colour's, well better than the one in the pic's here !. The front light's really are wank though....
    not just the front lights. I could live with that. It's everything else about it. The seat, the tail light/ tail section, the fairings, the way the engine is laid out. Everything about it screams jap bike....EVEN THE NAME BMW RRs1000, or whatever the fuck it is. Might as well call it the BMW 1000RRRRRRSSSRS

    Its understood that 193bhp will make it the fastest bike on the planet, but seriously who cares when you have to ride a bike that's like school in summertime? ....no class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Chow View Post
    not just the front lights. I could live with that. It's everything else about it. The seat, the tail light/ tail section, the fairings, the way the engine is laid out. Everything about it screams jap bike....EVEN THE NAME BMW RRs1000, or whatever the fuck it is. Might as well call it the BMW 1000RRRRRRSSSRS

    Its understood that 193bhp will make it the fastest bike on the planet, but seriously who cares when you have to ride a bike that's like school in summertime? ....no class.
    I could live with the rest of it, just don't like the front light's...

    I'd still rather have the RSV4 over it though.. (Not that i'm going to be buying either)...

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