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    How much power??

    How much power are you happy with, 100bhp, 120,140,160,180, have you ever thought how much you could handle and at what point does it become to much for you, interested to see what you reckon you could & would be happy with

    Do you use all of your Mille's power just now?, does it intimidate you a bit?, do you wring it's neck at every opportunity?


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    I've got older and slower so it's more about the torque for me these days.
    The latest 180bhp bikes may be the fastest on A roads but i love the midrange grunt that makes my Mille excellent for North Yorkshires B roads

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    Depends on the bike i reckon Badger, the K2 gixxer i used to proudly own obviously had more BHP than the mille but on that it never felt enough, my mates K5 has 180 BHP at the wheel and still feels weak compared to the mille, never felt intimidated with the milles power delivery, maybe a little wary in the wet for a couple of weeks after i bought it as the power seemed to come from nowhere and the back span up a couple of times, i like the way the front lifts with ease, i like the way the power is delivered with a punch, at no time from 0 to 163 mph punching it thro the box, throttle wound back has it ever gave me the uncontrolable feeling.
    hope that makes sense

    and yes i wring its neck every time i throw my leg over and hit the start button

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    Interesting one Badger! When I first took mine out after the pipes/map change it was bordering on scary initially. What amazes me is how quickly you (I) get used to the power and it becomes the norm. They are certainly bikes to treat with respect and in a recent review I read the reporter said not for beginners, I second that.

    Use it all - you're having a laugh! As said above what I like is the low down torque that allows me to ride in one gear on some roads, slowing by shutting the throttle down and then powering out of the turn by opening it, just makes for such exhilarating, smooth riding! (Provided I read the corner correctly!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by little1uk View Post
    Depends on the bike i reckon Badger, the K2 gixxer i used to proudly own obviously had more BHP than the mille but on that it never felt enough, my mates K5 has 180 BHP at the wheel and still feels weak compared to the mille, never felt intimidated with the milles power delivery, maybe a little wary in the wet for a couple of weeks after i bought it as the power seemed to come from nowhere and the back span up a couple of times, i like the way the front lifts with ease, i like the way the power is delivered with a punch, at no time from 0 to 163 mph punching it thro the box, throttle wound back has it ever gave me the uncontrolable feeling.
    hope that makes sense

    and yes i wring its neck every time i throw my leg over and hit the start button


    Pretty much what little1 said apart from the "gixer bit", the "wring it every time bit" and the in the "wet bit" as i don't trust my tyres but i think more wary then intimidated is key

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    Been down the big power 4 cylinder route with an R1. Possibly the most dull expirience of my biking life although the bike was an awesome package. Great down the pub for bullshit bhp conversations but could I use it? in a word no.

    Sticking my neck out I would say 90% gixxer 1000 / R1 owners cannot use them either. Mid corner I could not open the throttle because the back end would spin up too easily and top end was completely unusable.

    V twins on the other hand are far more usable in real road terms with the beefy torque readily on tap. I personally feel that I can use my mille 'properly' (often passing shiny new 4cyl power rangers on twisty roads) and it suits my riding perfectly.

    In short I got into bikes because they are fun....I lost that feeling with the R1 but definately got it back with V twins. Oh and the 955i speed triples are an awesome alternative, I'm saving for another one (as well as the mille).
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    This is both my first litre bike and my first big V-twin and must say the power delivery is spectacular on the Mille. I know it's 'only' got ~128bhp but the way that it delivers that power relatively early on in the rev range that makes it feel incredibly strong. It makes my eyes stand on stalks when I actually use full throttle. RiDE did an article a while ago where they figured out that the average road rider uses about 40bhp out of what was available, so I think you get to a point where power is no longer relevant on the road and all the litre bikes get to that point.

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    Mi bike gives 147bhp at the clutch.Enough for me.

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    personaly power isnt a big "must have" on a bike. Most fun bike i've owned or ridden was a ZXR400. Not powerfull with 55 odd bhp but i could go out riding with people on R1's gixxer thou's ect and really show them up purely because it handeled well and had plenty of usabal power for on road.

    My 750 is about 120 bhp at the moment never been scared of the speed or power (apart from when i first got it but thats new bike fear) got a few mods sitting in boxes waiting to fitted to get a few more BHP out of the old girl before she becomes a permenate track bike

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    my 126 bhp is enough for me, combine that weight saving and you dont need any more power.
    We know our bikes have all the fun in the twisties.
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    Some great responses on here...I guess what it comes down to is the useability of the power... the RSV doesn't seem to be getting thrashed until you hit the limiter and you're reminded that it is moving somewhat...so I have no qualms about twisting that throttle...I guess the in-line four parallel would be the Fireblade....down on power compared to Gixxer, Ri etc.. but generally coming out on top due to it's useability on the road.

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    all the new Il4's are just BHP hunting now. A 2003 odd 600 is ment to be the far faster/usable bike on the road.

    BHP sells bikes Torque wins races

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    well put Rene. I agree with most of the responses here. The power delivery is amazing, pulling cleanly from anywhere in the rev range. The mille is the most powerful bike ive owned (so far) and im sure im not using anywhere near all 120 odd horsies.

    I had one of those 'traffic light dash' moments with a circa 01/02 r6 on Wednesday -the first time since having the mille and left him for dust!! funny thing was i didnt even have to push the mille in the slightest, i could here his il4 squeeling somewhere behind me getting quieter and quieter lol. A stupid thing to do on public roads ofcourse, but it served as a welcome reminder that these machines far far exceed the kind of power we really need (for day to day jaunting).

    Roll on summer!

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    I had quite few bikes over the years. Last one was a BMW K1200S with more then 160 hp. 3 years and 40.000 Km later I decided to trade it for a RSV1000 '02.
    This is my 8th bike and one of the less powerfull. However it is the best bike and the one that gives me more fun. HOw many hp? have no idea but I LOVE THEM ALL. My only concern is....if something happens to my Aprilia, where can I find another one like this?
    Mine came from Italy with 7.000 Km on dash and mint conditions. Previous owner bought a DUC. Lucky me!!!

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    Since owning the mille i was more than happy with the power and usually ring its neck every time i use it, it just feels so sure footed in any situation. With recently doing the air box mod its opened up a new lease of life to the engine... guess it must have been really restricted, and the induction noise is so addictive The power is just a twist away on the throttle as you can just pull away without changing down in most situations but changing the gearing will be next just to give that little bit extra

    The covers come off and its love at first sight all over again, its a work of art that in 25 years ive never experienced and thats why i'm keeping this one cos it just does all that i need

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    i dont belive that anyone uses the full power of there bikes on the road even if your an experianced track rider i think you hold a bit back on the road because you never really know whats underneath you and the same piece of road can be so differant from one day to the next.
    i think the power delivery of a twin is perfect for the road but with fuel injection being so good now no bike is too powerfull unless you have a lead wrist

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    Riding on the wave of torque seems to be the appeal for most, i personally don't wring it's neck every time i am out, i ,like a lot of you ride the torque, when the mood takes me i will use every bit of power available and more if i could have it, i have no fear of these bikes, but i do treat them with the respect that any 1000cc bike deserves, i am always trying to squeeze more power out of mine.

    I can feel a 100mm piston kit might be the nest stage, this should give approx. 150bhp at the rear wheel goodbye Gixerboys

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    First ride makes me think it has loads of grunt but it could do with more on top. I could outgun a gsxr1000 k7 out of the corner but it took me a lap to get him on the brakes as his straight line speed was far to big and advantage

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaz View Post
    First ride makes me think it has loads of grunt but it could do with more on top. I could outgun a gsxr1000 k7 out of the corner but it took me a lap to get him on the brakes as his straight line speed was far to big and advantage
    More rewarding than just driving past him though mate, the newer model has more, in fact if you read Wobblers report Roobarb said he out gunned a ZX10 on the straight (OK Wobbler has got 151bhp), the extra drive you get through corners should be carrying you onto straights quicker than gixerguy, you will carry that all the way along the straight, i find that the Mille will hold it's own at Oulton and similair circuits where the IL4 can't really stretch it's legs.

    A mate of mine had bought a ZX10 last year putting out 174bhp and 84ft/lbs of torque, he rides about same pace as me and could not believe it at Cadwell when he could not pass the Mille on the back straight, in fact i could stay close enough in his wheel tracks on the back straight to outbrake him going into Chris Curve, much to his disgust as he bought this ZX10 to try and see me off

    What gearing were you on BTW?

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    std gearing for an edwards, The runs from cascades to island and from druid to lodge I had the jump on him but could only get aliong side and then he'd use his monster power to stop me getting past.

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