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    I think some of them do ballasts with extra long leads specifically for applications like that,not sure where I've seen them though.

    I'll post a link if I can find it.

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    These are the 2 we need but I still think they are too short and would possibly allow fitting in the lower fairing or behind the side panels. Link 3 or 4 together to put them under the seat hump.
    I've emailed a company to ask if the can make them to our spec and provide group discount etc.
    Will keep you all posted.

    http://www.hids4u.co.uk/12v-extensio...-1-pr-201.html

    http://www.hids4u.co.uk/high-voltage...-1-pr-202.html

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    has anyone done a mod guide for a 07 bike?

    I would also be ups for a set of these too. Would anyone go halves with me on these?

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    Quote Originally Posted by autotecart View Post
    has anyone done a mod guide for a 07 bike?

    I would also be ups for a set of these too. Would anyone go halves with me on these?
    The guide is pretty generic mate. I used the same process on my car so it will be very similar to your bike as well.

    I've had an email back from a company that will make the extension cables to our specific lengths although there is a minimum order of 10 leads. I will measure up how long it needs to be to comfortably place the ballasts in the seat hump and get back to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pompey-pimp View Post
    The guide is pretty generic mate. I used the same process on my car so it will be very similar to your bike as well.

    I've had an email back from a company that will make the extension cables to our specific lengths although there is a minimum order of 10 leads. I will measure up how long it needs to be to comfortably place the ballasts in the seat hump and get back to them.
    nice idea mate. i have hid on my mille and a pair on my vfr and tucking away even the slim ballasts somewhere up front is tricky. being able to put them further back would make it much easier

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanG View Post
    I think some of them do ballasts with extra long leads specifically for applications like that,not sure where I've seen them though.

    I'll post a link if I can find it.
    The main reason I can see for the leads from the ballasts to the lamps is that the ballast is actually a high voltage transformer and the leads are HT leads.
    I beleieve the voltage is in the region of 20KV, albeit not a high power output I would exercise caution with the routing and possible fraying of the cables.
    This is not an issue on cars and other vehicles as they do not have a rotatting headstock.
    The leads should be made with high grade insulation as the HT coil leads are on all vehicles.
    Also worh considering a re-prime push switch for the high beam relay just in case the ballast does not prime properly.
    Hope this helps.
    Pete

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    Very good point at least with the ballasts contained in the nose area there is less change of a break occuring due to bar movement. I tied the single slimline ballast to the alloy fairing cross mount but it's not ideal,I suppose with a bit of ingenuity and bracket making finding a home for 3 should be possible.

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    This forum is detrimental to my bank balance! Me and a mate just went halves on a set of these, if I think of a decent way to mount the ballast out of site, I'll post a pic. I think I will try to secure it to the crossbar as that looks like the best ouf of the way position.

    Anybody considered wiring in some sort of relay so there is a delay in the HIDs lighting so when you start her up they dont have to strike again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by _James_ View Post
    This forum is detrimental to my bank balance! Me and a mate just went halves on a set of these, if I think of a decent way to mount the ballast out of site, I'll post a pic. I think I will try to secure it to the crossbar as that looks like the best ouf of the way position.

    Anybody considered wiring in some sort of relay so there is a delay in the HIDs lighting so when you start her up they dont have to strike again?
    As an owner of a pre 2003 model I have the luxury of having a manually switchable headlight.
    I must say the ballasts don't always fire up first time and especially when the starter motor is run the voltage drops causing the ballast to not fire properly.
    This is where having the manually operated switch is a bonus.
    There is no need for a relay as the bike already has a low and high beam relay.
    If you have a look at the post I made specifying the diode modification it details the wiring of the lights circuit. You could add a normally closed momentary action switch in line with the coil of the relay to momentarily interrupt the control thus shutting off the light for the period of time the button is held in.
    This would then hopefully cause the ballast to strike on re-energisation. (my switching on and off of the headlight does this and it generally strikes first time once the engine is running.
    The option of retrofitting an earlier left hand cluster is far more attractive in my opinion. (bit of a pricier option but cleaner).
    Pete
    Last edited by petrolpete; February 3rd, 2010 at 11:50 AM. Reason: Adding info

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    Pete,

    I too have a pre 03 model, with a switch, but I tend to leave the lights on anyway, otherwise I forget to turn them on for the next ride!

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    Just finished installing this beauty, and wow what a difference!

    I've put the ballast where Pompey suggested but I'm not 100% happy with it there so I'll probably make a small bracket for it and locate it further inside the nose cone. Excellent instructions as well Pompey couldn't fault them. It took me a couple of hours mainly due to the fact I was trying to work out the best place to put the ballast.

    Neil, I'll get your half off tomorrow and you too can be wowed by the bright lights!!

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shake n Bake View Post
    Just finished installing this beauty, and wow what a difference!

    I've put the ballast where Pompey suggested but I'm not 100% happy with it there so I'll probably make a small bracket for it and locate it further inside the nose cone. Excellent instructions as well Pompey couldn't fault them. It took me a couple of hours mainly due to the fact I was trying to work out the best place to put the ballast.

    Neil, I'll get your half off tomorrow and you too can be wowed by the bright lights!!

    Cheers
    You're welcome mate, glad they could help. I put it there mainly for the ease of it and the cooling effect.
    The light difference is excellent isn't it

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    Quote Originally Posted by pompey-pimp View Post
    You're welcome mate, glad they could help. I put it there mainly for the ease of it and the cooling effect.
    The light difference is excellent isn't it
    You're absolutely right, photos don't do it justice. I've only had my lights on for a short time and havn't notice the ballast getting warm. How hot does it get? The last thing I want is for the ballast to fry itself or something else!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shake n Bake View Post
    You're absolutely right, photos don't do it justice. I've only had my lights on for a short time and havn't notice the ballast getting warm. How hot does it get? The last thing I want is for the ballast to fry itself or something else!
    They won't get ridiculously hot but the cooler they are kept the longer they will last. I had mine on for 2 hours and it wasn't at all hot but it is a possibility, don't worry about it. When I've got a few quid saved up I'll buy another kit for the high beam and extension leads for all three ballasts and place them in the rear pod but for now the ballast up front is not a problem for me as I don't really notice it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shake n Bake View Post
    Just finished installing this beauty, and wow what a difference!

    I've put the ballast where Pompey suggested but I'm not 100% happy with it there so I'll probably make a small bracket for it and locate it further inside the nose cone. Excellent instructions as well Pompey couldn't fault them. It took me a couple of hours mainly due to the fact I was trying to work out the best place to put the ballast.

    Neil, I'll get your half off tomorrow and you too can be wowed by the bright lights!!

    Cheers
    cheers pal....looking forward to recieving it.......the front fairing is the only fairing currently attatched to the bike so looks like its getting naked in the near future.
    think i'm going to have another busy weekend

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    i've added it to the common mod forum

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    Has anyone got any pics where they have put their ballasts other than where Pompey put his? Thanks for the guide though - awesome!

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    Are these now ilegal?

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    they never were legal...

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    The link to the kit used hear has ended. I can only find h1 kits for the mille on ebay, whats the difference between h7 and h1 please? Will H1 fit correctly?

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