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    Quote Originally Posted by petrolpete View Post
    Well that is a way of doing it.
    I am not over keen on messing around with the loom.
    I have myself achieved the same by soldering a diode from the high beam relay to the low beam relay (cathode side of the diode on the low beam + coil side of the relay and Anode side on the + coil side of the High Beam relay).
    The benfit of this is that it is reversible in minutes and also means you don't have to mess around with the loom. (I have got some pictures somewhere and will try and post them up).
    Oh and I have also since fitted a HID kit, if you fit a HID kit this mod is essential as the HID light unit takes time to fire up and this could be potentially dangerous as when the high beam is switched off it will take a few seconds for the low beam to come to full brightness.
    Pete
    Hi Pete,

    Now that sounds like my kind of mod. I have an HID dip light fitted and have the same reservations as you when switching from main to dip. Please post the piccies and diode details.

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    Right,
    I have done this modification to my bike a while ago and have done it by adding a diode.
    This achieves the following result:
    Low beam control on: low beam light on
    High beam control on: both low and high beam are actuated.
    This method has the following advantages:
    • It is easily reversible
    • It is virtually impossible to get wrong
    • It costs pennies
    • It should work on any bike

    Ok firstly the theory:
    Each one of the headlight control circuits makes use of a relay so that the current going to the lamp does not have to go through the control switch.
    The low and high beams are controlled in the same fashion.
    The following diagram shows the wiring principle.

    The modification consists of using a diode, in simple terms a diode is a bit like a one way valve for electrical currents.
    A diode is shown in the following diagram:

    The diode will only allow the current and therefore allow the voltage to be the same in one direction: so if we put 12V on the Anode end (the end furthest away from the white stripe) the other end will be at 12V (minus a 0.6 V or so don't ask as it gets technical but it will put through enough to energise a relay.
    Also in reverse if we put 12V on the Cathode (the end the closest to the white strip) the voltage on the other side will not be 12 but 0V.
    So the diode is insterted between the two control circuits in the following fashion:

    This can be applied to all bikes early and late milles alike oh and may even apply to the new non milles RSVR's (as long as the control circuit is the same aas shown in the first picture).
    Ok now onto the doing it:
    You will need:
    A soldering iron (maplins or any hardware store have them for not much money or borrow one)
    Some solder (usually comes with soldering iron)
    A diode: now as this is not going to conduct much current any standard low power diode such as a 1N4001 will do perfectly. These are available from any component shop, any Tv repair place will have some Maplin also stock them http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=19079 and they cost pennies.
    I did it on my 02 Shape Mille and removed the relays from the base and soldered the diode as shown in this photo:

    Note the side on which the white stripe is on the diode (if you get this the wrong way round it will not work).
    I found it easier to remove the relay holder from the left side of the front subframe.
    I then reseated the relays.

    I made sure the diode was tucked in under the lid of the relay holder (you could put the relays in some sheathing to ensure it does not short out with anything.

    And it looks like this with low beam:

    And Like this with high beam:

    And the last great thing about this mod is that it is reversible in seconds.
    I have not had any issues with the MOT with this fitted.
    Have fun.
    Pete

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    Excellent write up pete

    Now where's my soldering iron again i'm getting fed up removing panels every other week to do wiring mods has anyone else got anymore whilst i'm at it before i rebuild it all

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    Excellent report well explained and easier to do than the switch

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    Top man Pete. I'm on my way to Maplins today.
    Thank you

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    Just about to order one from maplins from the link...14p for the diode and 2.60 postage the robbing

    I'll wait till i next go to Makro in Leeds, there's a Maplins on the way, not that i'm a tight arse or owt

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    Yep, 14p and 1.50 for heat shrink wrap (1mm x1.5M) which is not vital but I'm going to buy it anyway. Oh yes, there is a Maplins less that half a mile away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B o B View Post
    Yep, 14p and 1.50 for heat shrink wrap (1mm x1.5M) which is not vital but I'm going to buy it anyway. Oh yes, there is a Maplins less that half a mile away.
    Bit of a cheeky question BoB, but if i sent you a stamped address envelope with the money in would you get me one whilst your there matey


    Hey ...you dont ask you dont get

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprocker View Post
    Bit of a cheeky question BoB, but if i sent you a stamped address envelope with the money in would you get me one whilst your there matey


    Hey ...you dont ask you dont get
    Tight northern bugger

    ehem Sssshhh I will do the same bro so order 3 but its a secret ok!

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    Great Stuff Pete

    I would adding HID xenons though as it makes a world of difference for about 30 quid.

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    Just re-read my original post and I said get some shrink to put the relays in.
    I'm pleased to see you understood it as put some shrink on the diode so that it can't short out with anything.
    I would need to have a closer look at the wiring diagrams for the 04, but am pretty sure it will work on them.
    Have fun.
    Pete (thinking the best ideas are always the easiest)

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    Been to maplins 14p soldered in didn't take long

    Cheers for the post

    Job now done

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    Sprocker & Black Sabbath - I'm on my way to Maplins this morning. I'll get several diodes so let me know your addresses and I'll post one to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B o B View Post
    Sprocker & Black Sabbath - I'm on my way to Maplins this morning. I'll get several diodes so let me know your addresses and I'll post one to you.
    pm sent BoB top geezer

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprocker View Post
    pm sent BoB top geezer
    Got it. Reply sent and it will be in the post by the end of the day.

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    A true gentleman, thankyou BoB

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    Well, mine's done! How can you go wrong with such detailed instructions? Took me 20 - 30 minutes total. Many thanks P-Peter. Great mod.

    All I want now is for the weather to clear up, get warmer and go out in the dark. Have you got a mod that will fix that for me Pete?

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    anyone got a spare diode and soldering iron

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    Quote Originally Posted by rschris View Post
    anyone got a spare diode and soldering iron
    You are obviously working on the principle of, 'if you don't ask....' etc. I can help you with a diode but not the iron.

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    ok anyone live near me with a soldering iron

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